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Boy Scout Troop 67
(Fort Irwin, California)
 
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"See things from a Boys point of view" - Robert Baden-Powell

WHAT HAPPENS AT CAMPING TRIPS?


Camping trips usually follow the following format.

Scouts arrive at the Scout Hut in full Field Uniform on a Friday evening, typically by 6:30 PM.   Once all gear is packed and a final check for permission slips and medications is complete, we will depart for the selected camping destination.   Upon arrival, the first order of business is to choose camp sites and set up tents.  Once all tents are up, kitchen/cook areas are set up and all personal gear is stowed.   Time permitting, the boys will have "Cracker Barrel" (snack) and the remainder of the night until 11 PM is "free time" for Scouts to unwind and burn off some energy.

Saturday mornings begin with the designated cooks waking up 1/2 hour before reveille and starting to prepare breakfast.  At reveille, the rest of the camp will rise and patrols are encouraged to eat together.  Each patrol will have their own dining area, or in the case of a shared pavillion, designated tables.   Once KP is complete, there is a flag ceremony and then the Program portion of the day begins with a break for lunch around noon.    Program (Scout-skill related activity, and/or the purpose of the camping trip) continues until 5 PM.  After dinner, the flag is lowered ceremoniously and there is free time until the Council Fire (at dark).  At the Council Fire, boys often perform skits, tell jokes, and enjoy Cracker Barrel.

We generally sleep a little longer on Sunday. Again, cooks are called to prepare breakfast 1/2 hour before their patrols.  Cold breakfasts are encouraged, due to the faster KP time.   After KP, all scouts are to gather personal gear and then start packing kitchen/dining areas.    The tents are the last to be packed, as it is usually necessary to wait until the tents and ground cloths have dried completely.   A tent put away wet will grow mildew and be ruined in a VERY short time.     While waiting for tents to dry, the Troop is lead in a "Scouts' Own" prayer service, led by the Chaplain's Aid; a boy appointed by the SPL to lead religous events.   Once all gear can be packed, camp is struck and we depart for home targetting a return to the Scout Hut.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS TROOP 67 HAS DONE?


When it comes to what we do, we're proud to say that we're way past the "recruiting hype".  This troop DOES...
 
... camp or has a "big idea' occur EVERY month
... hiked to the top of Mount Tiefort
... braved the rapids/white water rafting
... horseback riding
... shoot rifles and shotguns
... archery
... pioneering projects
... orienteering with map & compass
... hiking
... "Wilderness Survival" weekends sleeping in shelters we built from scratch
... M*A*S*H themed first-aid weekends
... week-long Summer Camp each year
... study mammals, reptiles & amphibians, nature
... study soil & water conservation, oceanography
... cooking over open fire
... hosted Fall Camporees

And there is so much MORE.  We do not limit the level of "adventure" the boys want to have.  Scouting is a BOY LED program.   THE BOYS decide what we do, and strong, trained, committed adults help them achieve their goals. 

What do YOU want to do?

UNIFORMS. WHAT'S "OFFICIAL"?


Officially, the BSA has ONE uniform, and any historical version of it is acceptable (once official, always official).  It is found in the front pages of every Scout Handbook.

The official BSA uniform is comprised of:
a troop-issued hat *
a troop neckerchief *
BSA tan shirt (with patches placed in the proper spots)
a Merit Badge Sash **
BSA olive pants
BSA web belt w/ buckle
BSA socks

This is THE official uniform, but in many pieces of BSA literature it may be referred to as the FIELD uniform, or commonly, the "Class A" (a military term the BSA prefers NOT to use as the BSA does not wish to be perceived as a paramilitary organization).

*  Technically, hats and neckerchiefs (and how they are worn) are optional in the BSA Uniform Guide, but if the wearing of either is adopted by a troop, they are then considered official components of the uniform. 

** The Merit Badge Sash, worn over the right shoulder, is impractical for most Scouting-related activities.  It is therefore only worn at ceremonial events or select meetings such as a Court of Honor.


It is not always practical to wear the Field Uniform shirt every minute a Scout is involved in a scouting-related activity.   The BSA offers a variety of polo-type shirts and tee shirts imprinted with BSA logos, and many troops (ours included) often opt to have custom printed shirts made. 

It is customary practice that when a troop (as a whole) agrees on a standard shirt, they will opt to wear it INSTEAD of the BSA olive shirt, and in many items of BSA literature, this will be referred to as an ACTIVITY uniform, or sticking with military nomenclature, "Class B".


Historically, the BSA offers major redesigns to the uniform about every 20 years.  This past year, the BSA announced the "Centennial Uniform" with "switchback" pants and some color changes to troop number decals and shoulder loops.   This is the 5th major redesign in the BSA's 100 year history.

WHAT'S SO SPECIAL ABOUT BEING AN EAGLE SCOUT?



  
Becoming an Eagle Scout is no small achievement.  In fact, among adults who have gone on to become astronauts, doctors, politicians, or business leaders, most of them will say that earning their Eagle is clearly among the most important achievements in their lives.

Back to the question... WHY?

Look at it from this angle.... ADVANCEMENT is completely up to the individual Scout.   If he has no desire or sense of committment to advance in rank, that is his choice.   IT IS POSSIBLE for a boy to attend EVERY meeting and EVERY camping trip, and never make it through 1/2 of the available ranks if he isn't motivated enough to take the extra step of demonstrating skills or earning merit badges.  Statistically speaking, only 2 out of 100 boys in Scouting will push themselves to become Eagle Scouts.

The "Trail to Eagle" is one of persistance, dedication, well-rounded learning experiences by earning 21+ merit badges, strong attendance at meetings and camping trips, and hundreds of hours of community service.... all culminating with the planning and complete exectution of his "Eagle Project" before his 18th birthday.

The "Eagle Project" is SO MUCH MORE than "giving something back to the community" (which it is, and let's not minimize the importance of community and charity).   It is actually his "final exam" in Scouting.  

HE manages his Eagle Project.  He will put to use all of the lessons he learned as a Boy Scout;  communicating, organizing, recruiting, conceiving an idea, selling the idea, planning the work, assigning work details to those helping him, being the "accountant" that tracks the hours worked and the money spent, etc.   In every conceiveable way, HE is the "project leader".

THESE are the highly desirable skills and traits that makes "Eagle Scout" stand out on a job resume or college application, and the fact that such skills and moral foundations are learned/mastered before "society" recognizes him as an "adult"...  simply amazing!

I WASN'T A SCOUT AS A BOY, CAN I BE A SCOUT LEADER


All are welcome to contribute as much as they would like as a uniformed leader, Committee Member, or a Merit Badge Councilor (MBC).

As a Committee Member, you should be willing to attend the monthly Committee Meeting and get involved in as much/little upcoming activities as you wish.  

As a Merit Badge Councilor, you choose to provide counseling from 1 to many of the available 121 Merit Badges.  YOU DO NOT need to be an "expert" to be a councilor, as the handbooks will cover ALL that you need to know to learn/teach each particular badge.   

As a Merit Badge Councilor, your time is ONLY used "upon request" when a Scout decides he would like to work on a particular badge for which you've agreed to be a councilor.  Merit Badges are earned OUTSIDE of the weekly meeting, so Scouts meet with you ON YOUR SCHEDULE of availability.


NOTE.. all leaders MUST complete a BSA Adult Application, which requires you to provide your Social Security Number.   A background check will be done by the California Inland Empire Council.  WE (Troop) will NOT know of the particular details of anyone's record, but will simply be told "yes/no" regarding your eligibility.   If you do not provide your SSN, you will not be accepted as a leader.   This is National BSA policy, not an ad hoc policy of Troop 67.

WILL MY SON BE INTIMIDATED BY THE OLDER BOYS?


We follow a ZERO TOLORANCE policy for bullying or unruly behavior.   Byany and all measure, Scouting is (and should be) considered a "safezone" where boys can come and GROW in a positive and supportiveenvironment.

Upon joining Scouts, boys are placed into a smaller unit called a Patrol- we currently have 3 patrols in our Troop.   Per BSA guidelines, apatrol is "a group of boys (no more than 10) of similiar age, interests, and abilities."

BY DESIGN, your son will be among boys "like him" for most of hisScouting events.  However, he will BENEFIT from the guidance andleadership examples of the older/larger boys who serve as SeniorLeaders, Troop Guides, and skill instructors.  Even in mixed-patrolcompetitions, we have only observed caring and supportiveinteractions... and we DO watch (just in case).

Scouting is a PRIVATE organization.   Should any boy's behavior becomeintolorable, it is well within our right to "un-invite" him from being aScout in this Troop.

WHY DO SCOUTS WEAR A UNIFORM?


Scouting's founder, Lord Baden Powell realized long ago, that when people look the same (uniform), they not only show they are members of an organization, but being dressed the same  ERASES all trace of "class" or "wealth" or "social status".  

In Scouting, all are equal and treat each other with respect.  In doing so, we learn to look past class, income, race, religion, nationality, and social status.

Despite the attacks from some of Scouting's detractors, there has never been a program so OPEN and SUPPORTIVE of diversity as Scouting.

Considering this was taken into account in 1907,  Lord Baden Powell was clearly a man ahead of his time.

DOES MY SON HAVE TO COME EVERY WEEK?


We certainly won't send the "Scout Police" out to find you if you don't show up, but you miss out on a big part of the BSA Program if you don't attend regularly.

Scouting is NOT just playtime, or "Billy's weekend fun" away from his kid sister.   Scouting is a carefully crafted character-development program.  Each boy is a member of a PATROL, and as such, is part of a smaller group (as compared to the whole Troop of boys) where he is given AMPLE opportunity to play an active and valuable "hands on" role in the patrol's success. 

A boy who shows up sporadically DEPRIVES himself of the chance to make key decisions within his patrol; choose trip ideas and destinations, make menu selections, divy out workload, and build close friendships.  Every meeting includes a period of valuable skill instruction and fun interpatrol competitions that relate to the upcoming camping trip. If a boys misses a meeting, he will find himself less prepared for the upcoming weekend in the outdoors.  The troop meetings are where we "learn", but the camping trip is where we reinforce the skills by putting them into practical use.

Scouts should make every effort to attend meetings on a regular basis.   Those who don't are missing out on the full experience of their limited Scouting years, and are causing their patrol members to do the same.